Sponsored by the Departments of Forest and Environmental Biology, Forest and Natural Resources Management, and the ESF Women's Caucus.
Friday, November 5, 2010
Biological diversity and Time
Sponsored by the Departments of Forest and Environmental Biology, Forest and Natural Resources Management, and the ESF Women's Caucus.
Tuesday, November 2, 2010
Balancing Work and Life: Dual-Career Couples.
How, and when, are you supposed to do everything? Does it get any
easier? At what cost? Couples representing
different institutions, academic rank, and
family status discussed the challenges and
strategies of balancing dual careers with
everything else important to them.
Sponsored by the ESF Women's Caucus and the
Women in Science and Engineering Future
Professoriate Program.
Panelists: empty nesters Dr. Gina Lee-Glauser,
Vice President for Research, SU, and Dr. Mark
Glauser, Associate Dean for Research and
Doctoral Programs and Associate Director for
Research, SU; Dr. Eleanor Maine and Dr. Doug
Frank, both Professors of Biology at SU and the
parents of middle schoolers; and Assistant
Professors of Chemistry, Dr. Kelley Donaghy,
ESF, and Dr. DJ Robinson, Ithaca College, the
parents of 3 elementary schoolers. The panel
was facilitated by Dr. Suzanne Baldwin,
Professor in SU’s Earth Science department. Dr.
Baldwin’s husband, Paul Fitzgerald, is in the
same department; he was unable to participate
today due to a prior commitment at the Geology
Society meeting.
Who commutes? Have tried to live where the one
with the strictest schedule has shortest
commute, although this has meant up to a 3 hour
commute for the other. As academics, they do
have some flexibility in class scheduling and
where work occurs—try to alternate days that
they HAVE to be on campus. Two of the panelists
were formerly in industry and they had strictly
set schedules, so living close to job was very
helpful; DJ noted unlike now when he regularly
brings work home, he left work at work. Gina
pointed out that much of your personal control
over your schedule and work load are much more
restricted and industry often requires frequent
travel on schedules made by the company. In
academia, they juggle deadlines, rather than
their supervisors. In contrast, work associated
with academia can often be performed in a
variety of settings, for example Mark would
bring a laptop to daughter’s skating practice.
How did you negotiate the job for your partner?
Eleanor was already faculty at SU when Doug came
on soft-money. When they started their family,
Eleanor went on 50% leave and Doug was hired to
fill the 50% position. The only thing that was
really half-time was their teaching loads—which
considerably lightened their stress level. They
were lucky that the base salary was sufficient
to live on. In addition, Eleanor was well
respected and they had the chair’s and dean’s
support. Both jobs eventually reverted to full
time.
They try to schedule sabbaticals together;
Suzanne took a ‘leave’ once to accompany husband
on his, and independently studied geology of
region in that locale. This turned out to be a
great work opportunity for both of them.
As a couple, need to define the boundaries,
career goals, and find a place that works with
you. Compromise is critical and couples may
have to alternate whose career or options to
follow at each juncture. From audience:
compromise is important to all couples. You
also must not resent sacrifices that you’ve made
for your partner, or take for granted those made
for you. Give each other space. Communication
is also key.
All of the panelists happen to be in same
general field as partner—does that help?
Baldwin and husband made conscious decision to
work together; otherwise they wouldn’t ever see
one another (their work was previously on
different continents). It was acknowledged that
you have to be conscious of the dynamics among
your peers and the politics that result from a
couple working in the same department. You may
be seen as a ‘voting block’ at faculty meetings,
for example. Or feel that you are a co-between
for your partner. Can you tell spouse that….?
(They’ll try, but you know, they do have other
things to remember, too!) For the Glauser’s, at
their original institution where Mark worked and
Gina pursued her doctorate and then also was
hired, there was an early perception that she
got her degree, positions and perks because of
her husband. Conversely, when he later followed
her to SU, no one cared.
Day to day workaholics vs family?
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Houses not as clean as they could be (all concur) and you hire help as much as possible.
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Stay organized, central domestic calendar and superimpose work calendars several weeks out.
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Daycare, before and after school programs at schools or private (they like the Jewish Community Center and Rothschild Early Childhood Center at Temple Adath Yeshrun—note: both facilities welcome non-Jewish participants), and reliable babysitters. Always have a back up plan.
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Dedicated family time. For one family, it’s Sundays, for another, daily dinners together. For all, between dinner and kids bedtimes, and they write later.
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Make your daily life circumstances work for you. For example the Glausers installed an antennae to allow internet access at their wilderness cabin so that Gina could be apprised of emergent problems at the office—this gives her the peace of mind she needs to enjoy time at the cabin. Set aside space at home that you can work well in.
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Flexibility. Work at home? May be easier at times to keep home separate, but for these families, working at home has less interruptions. Much of their writing gets done 9pm-3am.
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Toys in their offices for when kids do come in with them.
Give up job for a few years? Bio—would be
difficult. Kelley intended to take a year off
after youngest was born, but so many good job
announcements came out that she applied and
interviewed for a number of them. One of those
led her here.
What stage of your career did you have
children? Mark and Gina while she was in grad
school. Eleanor and Doug were older, she
already had tenure. They did encounter the
problem that SU did not yet have a parental
leave policy in place following adoptions.
Kelly and DJ waited until they thought they were
in established positions. Did they take
breaks? Sort of, but still wrote papers and
proposals.
Slow tenure clock? Eleanor was already tenured
when she went half-time; Doug did not take an
extension. Kelley’s previous institution had a
stop clock policy BUT chair and dean had to be
on board for this to work as intended, otherwise
the reduction in teaching would result in
higher expectation for writing. Also, she notes
that a teaching reduction wasn’t really what she
needed—it was physically uncomfortable working
at the lab bench during the later parts of her
pregnancies.
Is your experience typical for non-hard
science? They think so.
Gina volunteered that there are gender
differences. She never displayed family photos
for fear of “There she goes again” vs “What a
great dad!” She also never felt that she could
say that she had a family obligation, or to say
‘no’ to a work related request to review a
paper, etc. Kelley noted that despite being in
an open and responsive department, she feels the
same way now. As a result, both have missed
more of their children’s events than their
spouses.
They asked of each other: would you do it
differently? No. Through every sacrifice, we are a
stronger couple and family.
Comments compiled by Heather Engelman, ESF
Women’s Caucus and Sharon Alestalo, WISE FPP
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